Logitech "MX Master 3S" vs "MX Master 3S for mac" ?
But i read a lot of problems with both versions over at Reddit. Mouse lag etc, Especially with M1 macs.
No one seem to know why the "for mac"-version is actually better for mac, not even Logitech support.
Any ideas ? I know it’s a popular mouse for mac users, so which one do you have and why?
BikGer2
macrumors newbie
- Jan 26, 2023
- #2
Beefbowl
macrumors member
- Jan 26, 2023
- #3
I don’t have the 3s but I have one each of the “for mac” and “not for mac” version of the Master 3.
As far as I can tell, the differences are just the color and that with the “not for mac” the charging cable was USB-A to USB-C and the “for mac” came with a USB-C to USB-C charging cable. The “not for mac” may have come with a mouse dongle as well but I can’t recall.
As far as bluetooth issues, the MX Master did feel a little choppy at times, but I moved where my M1 Mini sits and it’s been smooth ever since. It feels like it just has a little shorter range than the Magic Mouse. I don’t think that was specific to the “for mac” version.
mfram
Contributor
- Jan 27, 2023
- #4
xraydoc
macrumors demi-god
- Jan 27, 2023
- #5
Even though I find it a bit too big for my hand, I find myself going back to it every now and then.
Anyway, I bought the non-Mac version, as I actually prefer the RF dongle to Bluetooth. Everything seems smoother. Seems like the dongle has a better "resolution" if that makes sense. I will say I find it the same way on my PC at work — dongle > BT.
I only use the mouse when I’m at my desk, anyway. When I’m on the go, I use the trackpad of my laptop. For whatever reason, and I’m presuming it’s related to the angle at which I use it, but the desktop Magic Trackpad gives me uncomfortable wrist fatigue after a short while. I’m sure it’s carpal tunnel-related.
Logitech MX Master 3 vs MX Master 3 for Mac – What’s the difference?
Gone are the days when a computer mouse had only two buttons and a scroll wheel. Today, you can find plenty of computer mice having a handful of customizable buttons and more than one scroll wheel designed ergonomically to increase the productivity of creators, editors, and programmers.
In addition there are a number of product variants to address compatibility issues with wireless and software.
This makes it very confusing for consumers.
This article will simplify the key differences and similarities between two full featured mice – Logitech MX Master 3 (also called Advanced) and Logitech MX Master 3 for Mac. We also make a recommendation on which one to buy.
Without further ado let’s get into the details.
Table of Contents
Logitech MX Master 3 Vs for Mac – Table of differences
Here’s a quick snapshot of the differences between the two products:
| MX Master 3 | MX Master 3 for Mac | |
| Connectivity | Unifying USB dongle + Bluetooth | Bluetooth (No dongle provided) |
| USB Cable | USB-C to USB-C | USB-C-to USB-A |
| Compatibility | Windows 10,11 or later Linux Chrome OS Mac OS iPad, and Android |
Mac OS, iPad OS, Android, and Windows |
| Color | Black & Mid-grey | Space grey |
MX Master 3 Vs. MX Master 3 for Mac – Differences
Connectivity
The main difference between the two mice, is that the original MX Master 3 Advanced comes with a Unifying USB dongle for a dedicated wireless connection and also supports Bluetooth connectivity. But according to many MX Master 3 users, the Bluetooth connection sometimes fails to register or pair with their computers.
On the other hand, Logitech MX Master 3 for Mac doesn’t come with a Unifying dongle to match most Mac designs. Although it only supports Bluetooth connectivity, there is no connection or pairing problem.
Color
Logitech MX Master 3 comes in two colors, i.e., black and mid-grey.
Logitech MX Master 3 for Mac comes in a stylish space grey color to match the Mac look.
Compatibility
Logitech MX Master 3 is compatible with
- Windows 10,11 or later
- Linux
- Chrome OS
- Mac OS
- iPad, and
- Android
MX Master 3 for Mac is compatible with
- Mac OS,
- iPad OS,
- Android, and
- Windows
Charging Cable
Since both mice are rechargeable and contain the charging cable, there is a minor difference in their types. Logitech MX Master 3 comes with USB-C to USB-C cable. MX Master 3 for Mac comes with USB-C-to USB-A cable.
MX Master 3 Vs. MX Master 3 for Mac – Similarities
Design/Shape
The design and shape of both mice are ergonomic and a real treat for the users using the mouse all day long. Both MX Master 3 and Master 3 for Mac are designed so that the users’ wrist is a bit more angled than being flat, and hence it gives more comfort and support to the back of the palm.
Scroll Wheels
Both the mice have a top scroll wheel with a mode switch button. This mode switch button lets the users switch between the more traditional line-by-line scroll mode and the free scroll mode.
Users can toggle between both modes as per their requirements. For example, the free scroll mode lets you quickly scroll through a long excel document. There is a second scroll wheel on the left side of both mice that can be used for horizontal scrolling. This wheel enhances productivity when used in Photoshop or any video or audio editing software that requires frequent horizontal scrolling.
Customizable Buttons
The hot-selling feature of both the mice is the customizable buttons.
There are three customizable buttons with the traditional left and right buttons. Two of the buttons are located right below the horizontal scroll wheel, and a third gesture button is on the thumb side of the mice.
Users can customize these buttons for general and app-specific use using the Logi Options software available for MX Master 3 and MX Master 3 for Mac. For example, the two buttons below the wheel can be customized for copy and paste and volume control in an audio editing app.
Similarly, the thumb button or the gesture button can be used for mission control in Mac. The gesture button gives four further options for customization. That means holding the gesture button and moving the mouse to any of the four pre-configured directions can let you do what you want the mouse to do in that direction.
You can even configure these gestures separately for a unique application. The only catch is that in the case of MX Master 3 for Mac, download and run the Logi Options software first and then pair your mouse. Otherwise, it won’t show up on the available devices.
Battery
Both the mice come with a rechargeable battery and an incredible battery life of 70 days on a single charge.
Moreover, Logitech claims that a one-minute battery charge can give 3 hours of mouse use. Also, the charging ports of both the mice are at the front. This means, unlike the traditional mice, you don’t have to flip the mice upside down for charging, and these mice can be used easily, even when connected to the charger.
Multi-Device Support
Both Logitech MX Master 3 and MX Master 3 for Mac have three buttons at the bottom to support easy switching between three devices at a time. Also, the flow control feature allows the cursor, files, and folders to transfer between the three connected devices without needing to disconnect and reconnect the mice separately. You can copy a file from one machine and paste it straight away to the other connected machine nearby.
Conclusion
Both the Logitech mice have the same basic functionality and design. The main differences are in:
- Connectivity
- Color
- Compatibility
- Charging Cables
If you are used to connecting your wireless devices through Bluetooth or are a regular Mac user, we recommend going with the Logitech MX Master 3 for Mac.
On the other hand, if you prefer connecting through a USB dongle and color isn’t your priority, we suggest going with the regular MX Master 3.
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Hands-on: Logitech launches Mac-flavored versions of MX Master 3, MX Keys, and K380 keyboard [Video]
Today Logitech is releasing Mac-flavored iterations of a few of its most popular peripherals. The MX Master 3 for Mac is the latest iteration of the popular wireless mouse for creative professionals, sporting a Mac-friendly space gray exterior and USB-C to USB-C cable for easy recharging. MX Keys is a wireless keyboard with Mac-centric keys and built-in person-sensing backlight. It too comes with a space gray exterior and is the perfect companion for the MX Master 3.
Both devices retail for $99 and are available today. In addition, Logitech is also launching a $39.99 Mac-flavored version of its minimalist K380 Multi-Device Bluetooth Keyboard that you can quickly pair with an iMac, MacBook, iPhone, or iPad.
For more specifics related to all three new Logitech products, check out the full post and corresponding video walkthroughs.
MX Master 3 for Mac
Specifications
- Ergonomic design
- Track-Anywhere Darkfield 4000 DPI sensor resolution
- Next-generation MagSpeed magnetic scroll wheel
- Mode shift button to switch between ratchet and free-spin mode
- Horizontal scroll wheel
- Back and Forward button
- Gesture button
- Highly-customizable via Logitech Options
- Space gray finish, optimized for macOS and iPadOS
- App-specific profiles
- USB-C quick charging (8 hours of usage with 3-minute charge)
- Up to 70 days with a full charge
- Price: $99.99
The MX Master series is one of the world’s best-known mouse options for Mac and Windows users, but with this particular MX Master 3 for Mac release, Logitech is specifically marketing towards Apple users.
First and foremost, the MX Master 3 for Mac features a space gray finish, which complements the finish of a computer like an iMac Pro, Mac mini, or space gray MacBook Air/Pro.
Hands-on: MX Master 3, MX Keys, and K380 for Mac
And instead of including a USB-C to USB-A cable for facilitating recharges, this MX Master 3 comes equipped with a Mac-friendly USB-C to USB-C cable.
Ergonomic
Beyond that, the MX Master 3 for Mac is similar to previous MX Master releases. The standout feature, outside of the insane amount of customization options, is the ergonomics. The MX Master 3 will fit most right-handed users like a glove, with perfectly carved out areas to rest your thumb and a slightly angled finger wrest that works with the natural shape of your hand.
I’ll say that I love Apple’s Magic Mouse, and I’ve been a big fan of the gesture-based top surface since it debuted, but it’s a terrible mouse for ergonomics. If you find yourself hurting after an extended time with the Magic Mouse, I highly suggest checking out the MX Master 3.
Customization
Outside of the ergonomics, customization is what the MX Master is famous for, as it features over half-a-dozen buttons, and all of them can be customized via Logitech’s Options software.
I’m an especially big fan of the horizontal scroll wheel, which allows me to quickly scroll in my Final Cut Pro X timeline, and throughout other timeline-based applications. You can even customize the MX Master 3 on an app-by-app basis via downloadable profiles, so you can make it perform a certain set of functions in Final Cut Pro X, and a whole different set of unique functions in Microsoft Word.
One of the most-liked MX Master features is the MagSpeed magnetic scroll wheel, which automatically shifts between line-by-line scrolling to free-spinning scrolling based on your scroll velocity. Users can use the mode shift button to switch between ratchet and free-spin scrolling. The next-gen wheel allows for scrolling line by line in ratchet mode, or up to 1000 lines in less than one second in free-spin. Of course, MagSpeed parameters can also be adjusted within Logitech Options.
Like previous MX Master hardware, the MX Master 3 for Mac features a customizable Gesture button, which can be used in the absence of a gesture-based surface found on the Magic Mouse.
To invoke a gesture, you use your thumb to press and hold the gesture button, and then move your mouse up, down, left, or right to invoke the assigned gesture. I’ve never found this setup to be as intuitive or as natural feeling as executing gestures on the Magic Mouse, but after using it for a while, it begins to feel more natural.
Flow and device switching
Logitech Flow is a technology that allows for cross computer control between two Macs, or even a Mac and Windows Machine. Once Flow is enabled via Logitech Options, it’s simply a matter of dragging your cursor to the edge of the screen to quickly switch to another Flow-enabled device.
What’s even cooler is the fact that the MX Keys can piggyback on the MX Master 3’s Flow session, and automatically switch over to the appropriate computer as well. Flow also works with file sharing for quickly copying and pasting files between computers.
The bottom line is that the MX Master series of mice are tried and true products for creative professionals, or for anyone who wants a highly-customizable mouse without needing to sacrifice on ergonomics. At $99, I think it’s definitely worth trying, especially if your Magic Mouse is causing discomfort after prolonged usage.
MX Keys
Specifications
- Scissor switch keyboard
- Spherically-dished keycaps
- Weighty, stable keyboard base
- Mac-centric modifier and function keys
- Smart Illumination with hand proximity sensors
- Auto-adjusting backlight with ambient light sensor
- Logitech Flow compatible
- Dual connectivity via included USB dongle or Bluetooth
- Connect up to three devices and switch between them
- 10-meter wireless range
- USB-C rechargeable
- Full charge lasts 10 days (with backlight) or 5 months without backlight
- Included USB-C to USB-C cable
- On/Off power switch
- Price: $99.99
In addition to the MX Master 3 for Mac, Logitech is launching a perfect MX Master 3 companion in the MX Keys for Mac. Like the MX Master 3, the MX Keys sports a space gray finish that goes well with space gray Mac hardware.
The MX Keys for Mac is a full-sized keyboard with number pad and function row. It also features Mac-centric modifier keys including Control, Option, Command, and Eject. In addition, you’ll find a full row of function keys with alternative functions for adjusting brightness, invoking Mission Control, opening Launchpad, controlling backlight brightness, and controlling media playback.
Although the build is comprised of plastic instead of aluminum like Apple’s Magic Keyboard, the MX Keys is deceivingly heavy and will easily resist sliding around on your desk while typing. There are no adjustable feet, but Logitech says that it’s worked hard to implement an angle that will perform well in most circumstances.
The MX Keys features a few standouts features that make it different from other keyboards you might be considering. For starters, it features spherically-dished [read: concave] keys that help your fingers find the precise key needed while touch typing. The keys feature scissor switch mechanisms, and there is a decent amount of key travel for a keyboard that doesn’t feature mechanical key switches.
One of my favorite features found on the MX Keys is Smart Illumination. Thanks to built-in hand proximity sensors, the backlit keys automatically light up as your hands approach the keyboard. There’s also a built-in ambient light sensor that will automatically adjust the backlight based on present lighting conditions.
Like the MX Master 3, the MX Keys is Logitech Flow compatible. In the case of MX Keys, Logitech Flow allows you to type across multiple Mac computers as it follows the cursor controlled by the MX Master 3.
Specifications
- Portable
- Multiple color options
- Mac-centric modifier and function keys
- Quiet laptop-like typing
- Connect up to three devices and switch between them
- 24-month battery life
- Easily-replaceable AAA batteries
- Bluetooth 3.0
- On/Off switch
- Price: $39.99
Last but not least, Logitech is launching the Multi-Device K380 for Mac, a minimalistic keyboard that’s ideal for travel and switching between multiple devices.
The K380 features unique rounded keys and is small enough to fit inside a laptop portfolio, backpack, or briefcase. It can connect to up to 3 devices and you can switch between those devices simply by pressing the corresponding device button.
Seeing as the K380 is geared towards Apple users, there are Mac modifier keys for Control, Option, and Command built-in. There is also a shortcut function row feature Mac-friendly controls, and an inverted-T key that makes it each for touch typists.
The K380 is by far the cheapest Mac accessory of the three launching today, coming in at just $39.99. If you’re looking for an on-the-go keyboard that won’t break the bank, then the K380 is a good choice.
9to5Mac’s Take
The star of the show is, of course, the MX Master 3 for Mac. This is a legendary mouse that’s being specifically marketed at Mac users with its space gray color, USB-C to USB-C charging cable, and Apple Store-friendly packaging. But outside of all of that, this mouse is proven to not only be highly functional in apps like Final Cut Pro X, Adobe Premiere Pro, Photoshop, Affinity Designer, etc, but it’s also extremely ergonomic, certainly more so than Apple’s Magic Mouse.
The one trade-off is that by switching from the Magic Mouse to the MX Master 3, you’re giving up the smooth and effortless gesture control made possible by the blank touch surface on top of the Magic Mouse. For avid Magic Mouse fans, that may be too much of a sacrifice, but I think it may be worth considering if you’re in need of a mouse that fits the natural design of the human hand.
And with the MX Keys is kind of the same story when it comes to ergonomics. I prefer typing on the MX Keys, with its concave keys and excellent key travel, when compared to the Magic Mouse with numeric keyboard. It’s not that the Magic Keyboard is bad, but the MX Keys is more comfortable to type on, can be connected to multiple devices, and works via Bluetooth or the included USB dongle.
Unlike the Magic Keyboard, the MX Keys comes with an intelligent backlight that turns itself off when you step away,. and will automatically sense your hands when you’re ready to type. This, combined with the built in ambient light sensor, do a good job of automatically managing the backlight.
My biggest gripe with the MX Keys is that the keyboard is comprised of plastic rather than aluminum. To be honest, it’s hard to even tell this is the case without physically touching the keyboard, but for those that prefer the aluminum found on the Magic Keyboard, this may be a negative. Fortunately, the quality of the plastic and the weightiness is substantial, and the MX Keys is very stable to type on.
As for the K380, it’s the cheapest keyboard of the bunch. If you need a keyboard to travel with and/or a keyboard that you can quickly switch between Macs and iOS devices, then it’s worth considering. I especially think it might do well connected to a Mac mini/TV setup, or an Apple TV setup.
You can actually use the MX Master 3 while it’s charging…